Wednesday, August 12th, 1998 - #749

Guest: Adam Goldberg

Host: Adam, Dr. Drew

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From the movie Saving Private Ryan

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Comments (14)

  1. sikkapox

    Good guest, good show. Really interesting discussion about how the cast of Saving Private Ryan prepared for their roles.

    Also, not sure if it was a slip of the tongue or not, but I noticed Adam refers to himself as agnostic rather than atheist.

  2. L

    The answer to Drew’s evolution question is actually quite simple, and he almost answered it himself before- he referred to mimicry, and asked why, if this behavior is disadvantageous to the organism, would this mimicry persist. Well, historically, such mimicry was advantageous- if you were very good at learning from input and able to reproduce behaviors, your potential for survival was increased. The positive stimuli we are exposed to during childhood and over the course of our most impressionable developmental stages are committed to memory and acted out throughout our lives. We are very good at this as a species, and we are equally good at learning from negative stimuli and reenacting it over the course of our lives, as well. So this ability can go either way with humans and has been responsible for both biologically successful outcomes when what the organism learned was advantageous and also served the purpose of killing off unwanted traits/behaviors/bloodlines. The element of modernity has changed its function appreciably, so now we see the effects of technology and medicine keeping the carriers of undesirable genetic material around as well as the preservation of this cyclical dynamic of learning negative behaviors.

  3. Lateralus

    guy was right about the noise in the left earbud.. Static in the right.. Adams very moved by the movie.. Wasn’t expecting the guest to be this funny.. Reminds me of Thomas Lennon from last show!
    @L I surprisingly followed and that makes sense… I’m not gonna try to make mine sound as intricate but my theory is the basic goal of evolution is survival.. And if you’re old enough to choose a lover.. Then your parents mustve kept you alive… You then see this as the way to be kept alive and mimic it through your own life.., just what I think hehe

  4. SanguineSymphony

    Carolla is pretty insufferable for multiple portions of this episode. His rant about television and art’s job to.not appeal to the lowest common denominator is especially pathetic given the content of The Man Show (which I love BTW).

  5. knucklhd

    Good old L…
    Few things, each of which I think we all have enough common sense to get our heads around…

    Off the top, learned behavior has nothing to do with genetics, obviously, and as such nothing to do with natural selection, which focuses on genetic mutations and their level of desirability.

    Mimicry is not a learned behavior and we are not, in fact, especially good at it. Many animals are much better at it that we are, and they’re dumb as posts. It’s a behavior animals do instinctively–they don’t learn to do it–and “learning from input” is an entirely separate thing from mimicry itself (and one’s ability to do so does have to do with natural selection, to the extent that this is determined by your GENES).

    The bottom half of the comment is even more all-over-the-map. “learned” behaviors are responsible for biological outcomes? How in the world does this make sense? How could behaviors be expected to segregate themselves among those with shared traits in such a way that they could be expected to, say, kill off bloodlines? Of course the effect of behaviors would be spread across the “genetic spectrum”, and whether a particular ‘good’ or ‘bad’ genetic sample happened to engage in a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ behavior at the particular time the behavior would be ‘good’ or ‘bad’ would of course be completely random. The comment just gets dumber and dumber the more you think about it. I mean wouldn’t we learn to not mimic the bad behaviors before they killed off our entire fucking bloodline, for Christ’s sake lol? These would have to be some pretty disastrous god damn behaviors.

    How could we possibly know a behavior “was responsible” for a good or bad outcome, even if we accepted the premise? Was L there in her loincloth, scratching out notes on apiece of bark for her longitudinal study? Where are behaviors represented in the fossil record?

    In closing, you know why people don’t wrestle tigers today? Because a million years ago, a guy with an undesirable set of genetic traits tried to take on a sabre-tooth tiger, and even although it instantly ate him, every single remotely-related person was compelled to mimic the behavior. As you might imagine, *poof* went the entire bloodline, and so today you never see that behavior of wrestling tigers, and so much the better, because, you know, it’s bad, and all those folks had bad genes (even though saber-tooths weren’t tigers, or even cats, but the behavior was just that bad).

    The End

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    Opening and discussion of the prep and filming of “Saving Private Ryan”.

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    Cam’s attracted to pregnant women. He then disses DAG. Adam: “don’t go too hard, you’ll break the water”.

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    Heather praises SPR and inquires about working with Spielberg. Adam talks about reading for a role in the movie.

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    Cathy’s been fighting with hubby for the past year. Should they separate? Adam deems her a royal pain in the ass.

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    00:56:20

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    Back to Jesse. Drew recommends therapy. Alcoholic coke snorting dad says he doesn’t remember abusing her. Zorback reference.

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    Joe, M, 17

    Joe’s cousin is being molested. Adam puts him on hold and searches for a less dour call.

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    It hurts when Jack’s GF gives him oral. Adam instructs him how to toughen up his penis.

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    Joe, M, 17

    Back to Joe. Drew: call Social Services on the molesting dad.

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    Alex, M, 15

    Alex’s question leads to a lengthy discussion about quality of entertainment.

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    Bob, M, 27

    Bob was born with hydrocephalus. A shunt failure left him with many problems, including seizures. Drew goes off the air with Bob.

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